Looking for Alfa 159 reference
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Looking for Alfa 159 reference
Hi all
I am trying to build Fangio's Alfa Romeo 159 of the Swiss Grand Prix in 1951
But as I am building the olde Revival / Casadio kit, I need lots of reference.
The suspension in the kit is completely bonkers, having nothing to do with the real car. The bodywork (particularly the floor) also seems wrong, just as there missing parts (the winglets behind the front wheels the driver from flying stones etc.)
So I am searching for: which car did Fangio drive in Bremgarten in 1951?
Formula 1 car by car just specifies a 159 without deDion tube.
Can someone scan the MFH manual, or take some pictures of the suspension and the underside of their model?
I have found the follwing photos which I think (!) show the car in action:
Note: The angled rear end, and the single exhaust pipe.
There a good few pictures showing the surviving Alfa 158/159 in museums, but I struggle to identify the exact car, and also as mentioned, see the lower bodywork...
I am trying to build Fangio's Alfa Romeo 159 of the Swiss Grand Prix in 1951
But as I am building the olde Revival / Casadio kit, I need lots of reference.
The suspension in the kit is completely bonkers, having nothing to do with the real car. The bodywork (particularly the floor) also seems wrong, just as there missing parts (the winglets behind the front wheels the driver from flying stones etc.)
So I am searching for: which car did Fangio drive in Bremgarten in 1951?
Formula 1 car by car just specifies a 159 without deDion tube.
Can someone scan the MFH manual, or take some pictures of the suspension and the underside of their model?
I have found the follwing photos which I think (!) show the car in action:
Note: The angled rear end, and the single exhaust pipe.
There a good few pictures showing the surviving Alfa 158/159 in museums, but I struggle to identify the exact car, and also as mentioned, see the lower bodywork...
Currently building:
Alfa Romeo 159 (since 2021)
Recently finished:
Renault R30 (since 2010)
Alfa Romeo 159 (since 2021)
Recently finished:
Renault R30 (since 2010)
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Re: Looking for Alfa 159 reference
There are many pictures in the usual reference books by Nye, McDonough, Cimarosti and on the web. The problem is that the specification changed frequently - 158, 159 (supposedly an engine spec not a chassis spec) 159A, 159M - and I believe the cars were stripped after each race and the parts re-assembled as required, so no reliable chassis history.
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Re: Looking for Alfa 159 reference
I'll see what's in here today...
https://www.scalemates.com/books/img/5/5/6/128556-66148-78-720.jpg
P.S. And I send you some MFH instructions via PM.
https://www.scalemates.com/books/img/5/5/6/128556-66148-78-720.jpg
P.S. And I send you some MFH instructions via PM.
Greetings Thomas
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Re: Looking for Alfa 159 reference
I was afraid this was the casedavidcowin wrote: ↑Fri Dec 03, 2021 2:37 am There are many pictures in the usual reference books by Nye, McDonough, Cimarosti and on the web. The problem is that the specification changed frequently - 158, 159 (supposedly an engine spec not a chassis spec) 159A, 159M - and I believe the cars were stripped after each race and the parts re-assembled as required, so no reliable chassis history.
I don't even need so much a chassis history, I just want to build something that is reasonably believable
Currently building:
Alfa Romeo 159 (since 2021)
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Renault R30 (since 2010)
Alfa Romeo 159 (since 2021)
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Renault R30 (since 2010)
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Re: Looking for Alfa 159 reference
Motorsport in Detail were releasing photo reference CDs some years back and Volume #55 covered Fangio's Alfa 159 in detail.
Their web site is no longer active so the second hand market would probably be your only option for a copy.
Their web site is no longer active so the second hand market would probably be your only option for a copy.
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Re: Looking for Alfa 159 reference
Pictures from SuperCars... not the best Quality but it's a print
http://steinietrabi-skoda-fabia.de/Modellbau/Diverse/IMG_5375.jpg http://steinietrabi-skoda-fabia.de/Modellbau/Diverse/IMG_5377.jpg http://steinietrabi-skoda-fabia.de/Modellbau/Diverse/IMG_5378.jpg http://steinietrabi-skoda-fabia.de/Modellbau/Diverse/IMG_5379.jpg http://steinietrabi-skoda-fabia.de/Modellbau/Diverse/IMG_5380.jpg
http://steinietrabi-skoda-fabia.de/Modellbau/Diverse/IMG_5375.jpg http://steinietrabi-skoda-fabia.de/Modellbau/Diverse/IMG_5377.jpg http://steinietrabi-skoda-fabia.de/Modellbau/Diverse/IMG_5378.jpg http://steinietrabi-skoda-fabia.de/Modellbau/Diverse/IMG_5379.jpg http://steinietrabi-skoda-fabia.de/Modellbau/Diverse/IMG_5380.jpg
Greetings Thomas
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Re: Looking for Alfa 159 reference
Great pictures of the winglets!Joaquin wrote: ↑Fri Dec 03, 2021 8:25 pm Take a look here
https://www.asmonzaracing.com/photos-ca ... -1951.html
Greetings Thomas
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Re: Looking for Alfa 159 reference
Thanks for that, looking though the photos here and elsewhere I can see I have a tall order ahead of me to build something reasonable.
Currently building:
Alfa Romeo 159 (since 2021)
Recently finished:
Renault R30 (since 2010)
Alfa Romeo 159 (since 2021)
Recently finished:
Renault R30 (since 2010)
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Re: Looking for Alfa 159 reference
Revival kits are always a small to medium challenge!
Greetings Thomas